1 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:06,550 [Music] 2 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:08,400 welcome to the skeptic zone 3 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:11,200 the podcast from australia for science 4 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:16,870 and reason 5 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:29,429 yes it's the skeptic's own podcast 6 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:30,400 episode 7 00:00:37,110 --> 00:00:34,800 number 651 for the 4th of april 2021 8 00:00:40,549 --> 00:00:37,120 richard saunders coming to you from 9 00:00:42,229 --> 00:00:40,559 sunny sunny sunny sydney australia 10 00:00:43,990 --> 00:00:42,239 wherever you are in the world i hope 11 00:00:46,709 --> 00:00:44,000 you're having a at least some 12 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:46,719 sort of little break over easter to 13 00:00:51,189 --> 00:00:48,239 enjoy yourself 14 00:00:53,110 --> 00:00:51,199 to uh maybe go for a nice walk if you're 15 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:53,120 lucky enough to live by the ocean you 16 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:54,719 can walk down by the ocean see the 17 00:00:58,229 --> 00:00:55,680 crowds 18 00:00:59,110 --> 00:00:58,239 well depending on where in the world you 19 00:01:00,630 --> 00:00:59,120 are i guess 20 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:00,640 no matter what you're doing i hope 21 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:02,480 you're having a good time 22 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:04,879 coming up on this week's show it's once 23 00:01:10,149 --> 00:01:07,119 again adrian hill with you can 24 00:01:11,429 --> 00:01:10,159 count on adrian adrian is going to tell 25 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:11,439 us about her battle with 26 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:14,400 migraines and something with which i 27 00:01:19,590 --> 00:01:15,280 sympathize 28 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:19,600 because starting when i was about 13 29 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:23,119 12 something like that i have also 30 00:01:25,749 --> 00:01:24,960 suffered from migraines not so much in 31 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:25,759 the late 32 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:28,479 years not so much in the past two 33 00:01:31,990 --> 00:01:29,600 decades they 34 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:32,000 were on the decline quite a lot but 35 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:33,840 certainly when i was a teenager into my 36 00:01:39,030 --> 00:01:35,040 20s 37 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:39,040 the migraine would come the migraines 38 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:40,960 would come frequently 39 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:44,320 and if you have never had one 40 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:47,360 good luck to you but those who do get 41 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:49,119 migraines know exactly what i mean they 42 00:01:54,870 --> 00:01:50,399 can be 43 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:54,880 dreadful simply dreadful and i i sort of 44 00:01:59,429 --> 00:01:56,880 know when one's coming on even if it's 45 00:02:02,389 --> 00:01:59,439 sometimes it's a painless migraine 46 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:02,399 sometimes there's distortion in in the 47 00:02:06,830 --> 00:02:03,439 visual field 48 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:06,840 so to speak which is a bit weird but 49 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:09,280 abilities simple thinking abilities are 50 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:10,720 thrown out the window 51 00:02:14,229 --> 00:02:13,120 concentration says goodbye and goes on a 52 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:14,239 little trip 53 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:17,760 um it's hard to do basic things like 54 00:02:22,949 --> 00:02:20,239 spell words or arithmetic 55 00:02:24,790 --> 00:02:22,959 what a weird thing anyway adrian hill 56 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:24,800 will tell us about her experiences with 57 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:25,920 migraines 58 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:29,440 and it ties in sort of with logical 59 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:30,160 fallacies 60 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:32,560 along the way maybe you too will 61 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:33,440 sympathize 62 00:02:36,869 --> 00:02:35,200 following that it's the newsletter from 63 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:36,879 australian skeptics see what's caught 64 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:37,760 the 65 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:41,120 skeptical eye of skeptical tim mendem 66 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:43,040 this week or last week actually because 67 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:44,640 it was held over from the week before 68 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:46,400 because the week before the show was a 69 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:47,680 little long 70 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:50,000 anyway skeptical newsletter then it's an 71 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:52,160 update on the covert 19 clunkers the 72 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:54,560 covert 19 conspiracy theories collected 73 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:54,959 at 74 00:02:59,670 --> 00:02:58,000 covert conspiracy.cloud now you can 75 00:03:01,830 --> 00:02:59,680 click this link on the 76 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:01,840 show notes at skepticzone.tv it takes 77 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:03,440 you to a webpage where people have 78 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:05,760 uploaded screen captures and photographs 79 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:09,200 of crazy covert conspiracy theories and 80 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:11,440 bad medical advice and this might be 81 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:12,480 timely because i see 82 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:14,720 from reports around the world there 83 00:03:18,309 --> 00:03:16,800 could be a new surge of covert 19 84 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:18,319 in fact i think there is in certain 85 00:03:22,229 --> 00:03:20,319 places in the world following that it's 86 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:22,239 a quick visit by the skeptical fairy 87 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:23,920 godmother angel from the internet who's 88 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:25,280 going to remind us 89 00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:27,519 that we can still watch skeptical events 90 00:03:31,589 --> 00:03:28,879 online 91 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:31,599 then to round off the show it's a trip 92 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:32,400 to trove 93 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:34,080 the treasure trove of digitized 94 00:03:38,229 --> 00:03:36,319 newspapers and so on from 95 00:03:40,869 --> 00:03:38,239 australia this week we're going to be 96 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:40,879 looking at references 97 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:44,000 to superstitions published in australian 98 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:46,480 newspapers over the decades is it bad 99 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:48,959 luck to listen to the skeptic zone while 100 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:51,120 mowing the lawn well i don't think so 101 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:52,239 who knows 102 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:54,159 stay tuned at the end of the episode for 103 00:03:57,190 --> 00:03:55,840 a very important announcement from me 104 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:57,200 but now it's time for me to run 105 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,640 downstairs 106 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:00,400 maybe there'll be a chocolate easter egg 107 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,480 in the fridge i'll find out while i do 108 00:04:14,030 --> 00:04:04,080 that i hope you enjoy 109 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:14,040 the skeptics on it 110 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:21,120 [Music] 111 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:24,639 you can count on adrian with 112 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:29,680 adrian hill 113 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:31,919 i am going to talk about a more personal 114 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:32,960 story today 115 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:34,720 that involves some of the logical 116 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:36,800 fallacies i have heard on the skeptic 117 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:37,199 zone 118 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:40,000 over the past year watch out for the 119 00:04:44,710 --> 00:04:42,000 argument from personal experience 120 00:04:45,749 --> 00:04:44,720 cherry-picking correlation does not mean 121 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:45,759 causation 122 00:04:51,189 --> 00:04:49,360 and the use of anecdotal evidence i know 123 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:51,199 that there are some of you out there who 124 00:05:02,629 --> 00:05:00,310 i have suffered from migraine headaches 125 00:05:03,749 --> 00:05:02,639 with some mind-bending auras for most of 126 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:03,759 my life 127 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:06,240 what is a migraine well according to the 128 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:07,600 mayo clinic 129 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:10,720 migraine can cause severe throbbing pain 130 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:12,800 or a pulsing sensation 131 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:15,520 usually on one side of the head it's 132 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:16,560 often accompanied by 133 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:19,440 nausea vomiting and extreme sensitivity 134 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:20,160 to light 135 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:23,680 and sound these attacks can last hours 136 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:24,479 or days 137 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:26,400 and many people experience a warning 138 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:29,280 aura i am not referring to the apparent 139 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:29,840 glow 140 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:32,160 of an energy field that some psychics 141 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:34,560 claim to be able to see around people 142 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:37,120 i am referring to strange visual and 143 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:38,720 other nervous disturbances 144 00:05:43,830 --> 00:05:41,919 that occur prior to a migraine happening 145 00:05:46,230 --> 00:05:43,840 my auras have ranged from the common 146 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:46,240 zigzag through the center of my vision 147 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:48,320 to looking at myself in the mirror and 148 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:49,360 seeing my jaw 149 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:51,600 and eyes shift so i looked like a 150 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:53,759 picasso painting 151 00:05:58,950 --> 00:05:56,240 one of the more amusing ones i had they 152 00:06:00,790 --> 00:05:58,960 can be amusing before the pain hits 153 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:00,800 was sitting at our kitchen table with a 154 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:03,120 friend and his eyes moved completely off 155 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:04,639 his face 156 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:06,400 after watching the wonder of eyes 157 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:07,919 floating in the room for a while 158 00:06:12,309 --> 00:06:10,560 i excused myself to take my medication 159 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:12,319 to help reduce the symptoms that were 160 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:13,280 likely to come 161 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:16,080 within the next hour there is a lot of 162 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:16,720 debate 163 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:19,520 about the causes or triggers of migraine 164 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:21,280 there is nothing new about many of the 165 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:22,880 conjectures 166 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:25,440 according to neurologist oliver sachs in 167 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:26,479 his book titled 168 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:29,520 migraine he states that over 300 years 169 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:30,160 ago 170 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:32,240 thomas willis an english doctor 171 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,039 described migraine attacks as 172 00:06:38,309 --> 00:06:37,440 an evil or weak constitution of the 173 00:06:40,870 --> 00:06:38,319 parts 174 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:40,880 sometimes innate and hereditary an 175 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:41,759 irritation 176 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:44,479 in some distant member of viscera 177 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:45,840 changes of season 178 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:48,240 atmospheric states the great aspects of 179 00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:49,759 the sun and the moon 180 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:53,120 violent passions and errors in diet 181 00:06:57,589 --> 00:06:55,680 to this day diet and weather are two of 182 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:57,599 the most talked about possible triggers 183 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,960 that i encounter in casual conversation 184 00:07:04,469 --> 00:07:02,880 most neurologists i have seen over the 185 00:07:07,029 --> 00:07:04,479 years have asked me to track my 186 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:07,039 migraines to try to determine triggers 187 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:09,039 though my first neurologist told me i 188 00:07:12,309 --> 00:07:10,720 had little hope to avoid them 189 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:12,319 since both of my parents suffer from 190 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:14,560 them and two of my three children get 191 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:14,880 them 192 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:18,400 continuing the hereditary trend so 35 193 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:20,160 years ago when i was first diagnosed 194 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:21,919 with migraine i began charting them 195 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:25,039 usually in six month spurts over the 196 00:07:29,189 --> 00:07:26,080 past three years 197 00:07:30,309 --> 00:07:29,199 i haven't missed a day years ago i tried 198 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:30,319 many diet changes 199 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:33,120 no sugar no nitrites no alcohol no 200 00:07:36,309 --> 00:07:34,319 caffeine 201 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:36,319 which were prescribed by a naturopath 202 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:37,360 before i knew 203 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:40,560 that nd stands for not a doctor 204 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:43,360 and it seemed to work did i finally find 205 00:07:47,110 --> 00:07:44,400 my answer 206 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:47,120 unfortunately no the migraines always 207 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:49,440 returned with a vengeance 208 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:51,360 at the end of my sugar and caffeine 209 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:53,360 deprivation at a week of terrible 210 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:54,160 migraines 211 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:56,319 i decided to have a great chocolate 212 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:57,599 feast 213 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:01,120 surprisingly the migraine stopped 214 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:03,440 should i conclude that eating large 215 00:08:07,430 --> 00:08:05,520 amounts of chocolate is the answer 216 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:07,440 i think most people would laugh at the 217 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:09,520 conclusion and know that this would be a 218 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:11,599 ridiculous thing to do 219 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:13,280 but when it comes to the weather this 220 00:08:17,589 --> 00:08:15,440 seems to be a common approach 221 00:08:19,589 --> 00:08:17,599 i live in calgary alberta where chinook 222 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:19,599 winds and severe temperature changes are 223 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:20,639 the norm 224 00:08:24,869 --> 00:08:22,960 a chinook is a warm and gusty westerly 225 00:08:27,189 --> 00:08:24,879 wind that originates in the pacific 226 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:27,199 northwest and moves over the mountains 227 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:29,680 and meets with the prairie cold 228 00:08:33,750 --> 00:08:31,680 there is a distinct arch visible in the 229 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:33,760 clouds and large temperature swings from 230 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:36,159 cold to warm within 24 hours or less are 231 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:37,519 typical 232 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:39,200 if someone gets a migraine the day of a 233 00:08:43,509 --> 00:08:41,519 chinook most people i talk to 234 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:43,519 automatically attribute the cause to the 235 00:08:48,070 --> 00:08:45,200 change in barometric pressure 236 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:48,080 that results from the weather this 237 00:08:53,110 --> 00:08:50,640 hypothesis led me to a question 238 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:53,120 if it is the barometric pressure then 239 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:54,000 does traveling 240 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:55,760 over a mountain pass or flying in an 241 00:09:00,150 --> 00:08:57,920 airplane trigger a migraine 242 00:09:01,829 --> 00:09:00,160 for many years i have asked with genuine 243 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:01,839 interest this question of people who 244 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:03,600 tell me their migraines are triggered by 245 00:09:08,790 --> 00:09:05,440 chinooks 246 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:08,800 only two have said yes on the other hand 247 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:11,040 one of my friends unbeknownst to me 248 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:13,040 decided to track her migraines after me 249 00:09:16,230 --> 00:09:14,560 asking these questions 250 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:16,240 she told me a few months later to her 251 00:09:19,990 --> 00:09:18,480 surprise there didn't seem to be a link 252 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:20,000 after all 253 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:22,399 recently it was suggested to me by a 254 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:23,920 medical practitioner 255 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:25,680 that my march month of terrible 256 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:28,160 migraines was caused by severe weather 257 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:29,360 fluctuations 258 00:09:34,070 --> 00:09:32,320 and not by my new antidepressant she 259 00:09:36,150 --> 00:09:34,080 stated that this issue was published in 260 00:09:38,710 --> 00:09:36,160 our local news 261 00:09:39,910 --> 00:09:38,720 as i said i logged my migraine symptoms 262 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:39,920 medication taken 263 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:42,640 and severity of pain so it was easy to 264 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:44,640 compare the weather pattern history with 265 00:09:48,310 --> 00:09:45,760 my chart 266 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:48,320 what i found was that during my six day 267 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:50,480 stretch of migraine the weather was very 268 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:51,120 stable 269 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:53,360 it did not fluctuate much at all the 270 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:54,160 previous month 271 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:56,320 however had some crazy temperature 272 00:10:01,430 --> 00:09:58,959 swings and i had only one migraine 273 00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:01,440 to be clear i really do not know if 274 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:03,440 chinooks can cause migraines 275 00:10:07,269 --> 00:10:06,480 i am not a neurologist i just know they 276 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:07,279 don't for me 277 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:09,360 after years of tracking comparing and 278 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:11,680 discussing with specialists 279 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:14,880 in a 2013 review called migraine and 280 00:10:19,030 --> 00:10:15,600 triggers 281 00:10:22,069 --> 00:10:19,040 post hoc ergo procter hawk by hoffman 282 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:22,079 and ricober experts don't seem to be 283 00:10:25,030 --> 00:10:23,360 sure either 284 00:10:27,509 --> 00:10:25,040 in the review it was found to be 285 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:27,519 possible that low temperature 286 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:30,079 combined with relative high humidity and 287 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:31,680 low atmospheric pressure 288 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:34,000 may be associated with an increased 289 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:35,680 incident of migraine attacks 290 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:38,720 in a subgroup of migraineers what i 291 00:10:40,949 --> 00:10:39,120 found 292 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:40,959 interesting here is that with the 293 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:42,480 chinook the temperature goes 294 00:10:46,949 --> 00:10:43,200 dramatically 295 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:46,959 up not down and the review has the usual 296 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:48,720 statement included when studies have 297 00:10:53,590 --> 00:10:51,200 small sample sizes or are retrospective 298 00:10:55,910 --> 00:10:53,600 and self-reporting in nature 299 00:10:57,750 --> 00:10:55,920 results need confirmation by larger 300 00:10:58,790 --> 00:10:57,760 carefully controlled and designed 301 00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:58,800 clinical studies 302 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:00,959 with long observational periods to 303 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:04,079 exclude potential confounding factors 304 00:11:08,470 --> 00:11:06,000 another thing that has puzzled me for 305 00:11:10,389 --> 00:11:08,480 years is why i have never heard people 306 00:11:12,389 --> 00:11:10,399 in calgary blame their migraines on the 307 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:12,399 severe thunderstorms we get here every 308 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:14,160 spring and summer 309 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:15,600 at least i don't remember anyone 310 00:11:18,310 --> 00:11:17,440 claiming that thunderstorms caused their 311 00:11:20,230 --> 00:11:18,320 migraine 312 00:11:21,910 --> 00:11:20,240 the temperature and wind speed can 313 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:21,920 change dramatically in a very short 314 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:23,120 period 315 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:25,680 yes this has been studied too most of 316 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:27,360 the studies suffer from small sample 317 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:29,760 size and conclude it may be possible 318 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:31,040 there is a connection 319 00:11:36,150 --> 00:11:34,560 but better and larger studies are needed 320 00:11:38,150 --> 00:11:36,160 now let's get back to my favorite 321 00:11:41,430 --> 00:11:38,160 subject chocolate 322 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:41,440 my cure has been blamed as a trigger for 323 00:11:45,829 --> 00:11:43,760 as long as i can remember 324 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:45,839 however according to lee tompkins 325 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:48,240 director of the migraine action society 326 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:49,519 in the uk 327 00:11:54,550 --> 00:11:51,680 it is common for many people to crave 328 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:54,560 sweet things prior to getting a migraine 329 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:56,480 people will crave the chocolate then get 330 00:12:00,470 --> 00:11:58,560 a migraine blaming the onset of an 331 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:00,480 attack on the chocolate 332 00:12:04,150 --> 00:12:03,200 however the attack may have already been 333 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:04,160 on its way 334 00:12:09,190 --> 00:12:06,560 and it may have been the migraine brain 335 00:12:11,269 --> 00:12:09,200 that induced you to eat the chocolate 336 00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:11,279 besides chocolate some of the most 337 00:12:14,069 --> 00:12:13,040 common food culprits blamed for 338 00:12:16,389 --> 00:12:14,079 triggering migraine 339 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:16,399 are cheese monosodium glutamate 340 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:17,600 aspartame 341 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:20,639 coffee and alcohol investigating food 342 00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:21,920 triggers is difficult 343 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:24,399 since accurate records must be kept and 344 00:12:28,230 --> 00:12:26,320 one needs to be cautious 345 00:12:30,230 --> 00:12:28,240 of the cause and effect issue already 346 00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:30,240 discussed around chocolate 347 00:12:33,509 --> 00:12:33,040 a so-called migraine diet has made its 348 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:33,519 rounds 349 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:35,600 in migraineer communities and with 350 00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:38,480 health gurus for several decades 351 00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:41,519 it involves being on an elimination diet 352 00:12:45,829 --> 00:12:43,680 that occurs over long periods of time to 353 00:12:47,990 --> 00:12:45,839 help identify possible triggers 354 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:48,000 according to the hofmann and recovers 355 00:12:53,910 --> 00:12:50,480 review there is no scientific evidence 356 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:53,920 for a person to adopt this dietary trend 357 00:12:57,430 --> 00:12:55,920 in fact according to them advising 358 00:12:59,350 --> 00:12:57,440 patients to avoid triggers 359 00:13:01,190 --> 00:12:59,360 can lead to a restrictive lifestyle that 360 00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:01,200 can cause an increase in stress 361 00:13:06,629 --> 00:13:04,320 and frustration instead they recommend a 362 00:13:09,829 --> 00:13:06,639 balance of trigger avoidance and coping 363 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:09,839 mechanisms neurologist stephen novella 364 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:11,760 on the science-based medicine website 365 00:13:15,910 --> 00:13:13,360 has found that caffeine is one of the 366 00:13:18,949 --> 00:13:15,920 most common triggers he sees in patients 367 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:18,959 and it is easy to test if caffeine is 368 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:20,800 needed to get rid of a headache 369 00:13:23,990 --> 00:13:23,040 caffeine withdrawal is most likely the 370 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:24,000 culprit 371 00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:26,320 and he recommends no caffeine for 372 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:28,000 several weeks to see if migraine 373 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:28,800 frequency 374 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:32,160 declines one of my favorite anecdotes 375 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:33,920 was him discussing patience on his 376 00:13:38,230 --> 00:13:36,240 skeptic's guide to the universe podcast 377 00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:38,240 where he asked people how many cups of 378 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:39,920 coffee they had every day 379 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:43,600 and they answered in pots not cops 380 00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:46,240 probably not a good idea even for people 381 00:13:51,430 --> 00:13:49,040 without migraine 382 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:51,440 do chinooks chocolate and caffeine 383 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:52,880 trigger migraines 384 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:55,600 maybe i have learned to be cautious of 385 00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:57,519 anecdotal evidence and have learned to 386 00:14:01,189 --> 00:13:59,120 carefully track my symptoms with the 387 00:14:03,030 --> 00:14:01,199 guidance of my neurologists 388 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:03,040 i have learned that migraines can happen 389 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:04,880 despite having a good diet 390 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:07,440 and regular exercise i have learned that 391 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:09,680 migraines are complex and vary from 392 00:14:13,509 --> 00:14:11,600 person to person 393 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:13,519 and turning the corner to realizing i 394 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:15,120 probably have no control 395 00:14:18,389 --> 00:14:17,760 over when i get a migraine has released 396 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:18,399 me 397 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:20,079 and maybe chinook's chocolate and 398 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:38,150 hi folks maynard here i hope you're all 399 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:39,440 enjoying your skeptical time with 400 00:14:42,829 --> 00:14:41,120 richard here man there's a lot of 401 00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:42,839 learned listeners to this show 402 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:45,839 but do you know who's saying rockabilly 403 00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:47,440 rebel and how well that charted in 404 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:48,079 finland 405 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:49,360 that's pretty important stuff you need 406 00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:50,320 to know you never know when you're going 407 00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:51,279 to need that kind of stuff 408 00:14:54,710 --> 00:14:53,519 so how about you come along and join 409 00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:54,720 richard and i 410 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,480 at the amazing we don't care quiz 411 00:15:01,990 --> 00:15:00,560 if the title says it all we don't care 412 00:15:02,550 --> 00:15:02,000 if you don't like the questions we don't 413 00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:02,560 care 414 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:05,600 even less if you can say that 415 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:06,800 grammatically but that's what's going to 416 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:07,360 be happening 417 00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:08,560 we don't care if you want to find out 418 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:10,959 when it's on it's on at 8 30 live 419 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:12,639 play along live with us on the live 420 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:15,120 stream video at maynard's facebook page 421 00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:15,760 that's me 422 00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:18,079 or maynard.com.u there's a link there on 423 00:15:26,190 --> 00:15:19,199 the front see you later 424 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:26,200 come on let's hear it for finish pop 425 00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:42,000 [Music] 426 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:43,279 now it's time to see what's caught the 427 00:15:47,670 --> 00:15:45,680 eye of skeptical tim endum the editor 428 00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:47,680 and executive officer of the australian 429 00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:49,199 skeptics via 430 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:50,720 the australian skeptics newsletter 431 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:53,880 newsletter number 119. 432 00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:57,199 [Music] 433 00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:00,720 hi all it says as the rollout of covet 434 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:03,600 19 vaccines picks up steam 435 00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:06,480 we'll see how hesitant australians are 436 00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:08,320 getting vaccinated 437 00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:11,600 a rush on gps now is only indicative 438 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:13,680 of the majority who have always said 439 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:15,199 that they will get it 440 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:17,600 we'll have to wait for some more months 441 00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:18,320 before 442 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:20,959 the true situation becomes apparent but 443 00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:22,320 in the meantime 444 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:25,759 we'll always have muller mimbi read on 445 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:28,160 and news items covered in this 446 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:28,880 newsletter 447 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:31,600 are australia's anti-vaxx capital 448 00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:34,079 profile of the mullan bimbi community of 449 00:16:39,189 --> 00:16:36,160 the north coast of new south wales 450 00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:39,199 skeptics quoted then remember that each 451 00:16:44,069 --> 00:16:41,759 story also includes a link when you 452 00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:44,079 subscribe to the newsletter 453 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:46,240 canadian conservative party votes not to 454 00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:49,120 recognize climate crisis as real 455 00:16:52,870 --> 00:16:52,000 a very short article which is short on 456 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:52,880 detail 457 00:16:56,110 --> 00:16:55,600 not sure if they are against the concept 458 00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:56,120 of 459 00:17:03,030 --> 00:16:59,120 anthropogenic climate change per se 460 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:03,040 or just the crisis part 461 00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:06,319 oregon and pseudoscience interesting 462 00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:08,240 historical article on the austrian 463 00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:09,679 physicist william rice 464 00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:12,959 oregon energy accumulator 465 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:16,160 and uh as an aside yes you can still buy 466 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:16,720 orgon 467 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:20,480 energy devices i know here in australia 468 00:17:25,990 --> 00:17:23,679 i've come across those quite a few times 469 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:26,000 banned this week at pseudoscience gay 470 00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:28,000 conversion therapy is not just a 471 00:17:31,909 --> 00:17:29,520 practice among 472 00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:31,919 fundamental christian groups this jewish 473 00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:35,120 blogger describes his experiences 474 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:37,440 has the canterbury panther mystery been 475 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:38,640 solved 476 00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:41,280 new zealand's canterburyans i.e around 477 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:42,240 christchurch 478 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:44,880 have long questioned whether large cats 479 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:47,520 are on the loose in the south island 480 00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:49,360 now there may finally be an answer 481 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:50,799 thanks to dna 482 00:17:58,470 --> 00:17:54,799 but don't get your hopes up sailing 483 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:58,480 skeptically anyone with a few days to 484 00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:01,280 spare in mid-2022 485 00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:03,360 may fancy a cruise through northern 486 00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:05,120 europe on the sooth 487 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:08,160 sayers cruise club quote 488 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:10,400 time to look forward to getting together 489 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:11,600 for an adventure 490 00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:13,120 join your fellow skeptics for a 491 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:14,880 celebration of fun 492 00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:18,000 food and free thinking on a 493 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:20,960 12 night baltic cruise aboard the brand 494 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:23,360 new celebrity apex 495 00:18:26,789 --> 00:18:25,280 from the 20th of july to the 1st of 496 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:26,799 august 2022 497 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:29,840 hopefully mentioning cruz and europe 498 00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:32,720 in the same breath will not be as big a 499 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:34,000 worry next year 500 00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:38,160 as it was last the march 2021 issue of 501 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:39,200 the skeptic 502 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:41,120 the journal from australia's skeptics is 503 00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:43,120 out with a major feature on various mind 504 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:45,120 control techniques and the pseudoscience 505 00:18:49,390 --> 00:18:46,240 behind them 506 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:49,400 also included are an in-depth look at 507 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:50,960 biodynamics 508 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:54,000 the study on omens and prophecies a 509 00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:56,240 classic map of early australian 510 00:19:01,990 --> 00:18:59,280 exploration reinterpreted contact 511 00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:02,000 with extraterrestrials and the early 512 00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:03,840 results of a major study on psychic 513 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:04,640 predictions 514 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:07,760 who's right who's wrong and who's jumped 515 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:10,480 onto the wrong horse 516 00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:12,080 and there's a link there so you can 517 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,720 subscribe to the journal itself 518 00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:16,720 the newsletter also lists upcoming 519 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:19,679 events such as canberra skeptics 520 00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:22,000 sydney skeptics in the pub queensland 521 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:23,120 skeptics 522 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:25,440 adelaide critical thinkers in the pub 523 00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:27,760 victorian skeptics cafe 524 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:29,840 gold coast skeptics per skeptics and 525 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:31,600 more 526 00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:34,640 and we end with security cameras record 527 00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:36,160 paranormal activity 528 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:39,679 in texas home we don't normally link to 529 00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:41,520 ghost videos and photos 530 00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:43,520 we get them every day and they tend to 531 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:44,799 be the same so 532 00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:47,919 vague and amorphous as to be 533 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:51,120 not worth investigating for example 534 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:52,960 what am i supposed to be looking at 535 00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,440 obvious double exposures with 536 00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,000 clear natural explanations spiders on 537 00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:59,840 security cameras is a common one 538 00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:02,320 or blatant fakes but we thought we'd 539 00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:03,919 throw this one into the mix just for the 540 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:04,640 record 541 00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:07,360 and in case you haven't seen one lately 542 00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:08,240 ask a few 543 00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:11,039 questions why do these things only move 544 00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:11,840 one way 545 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,480 strings pulling why are all these 546 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:16,799 security cameras in odd locations around 547 00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:17,840 the house 548 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:20,720 to film what's going to happen and how 549 00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:21,520 can that 550 00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,559 dog sit down so calmly after witnessing 551 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:26,320 a paranormal event 552 00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:28,080 my pet humans doing something silly 553 00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:29,919 again honestly 554 00:20:33,669 --> 00:20:32,240 these are pretty typical now you can 555 00:20:36,430 --> 00:20:33,679 subscribe to the australian skeptics 556 00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:36,440 newsletter by visiting 557 00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:37,840 www.skeptics.com.edu 558 00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:59,190 hi this is rob palmer i write the 559 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:00,400 well-known skeptic 560 00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:03,440 column and skeptical inquirer online and 561 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:04,799 i'm a team member of the guerrilla 562 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:06,799 skeptics and wikipedia project 563 00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,080 gsow but you find folks may know me 564 00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:11,679 because i contributed segments for 565 00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:12,799 several episodes 566 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,679 of this podcast check out my interviews 567 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:17,360 from cycon 2019 568 00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:20,640 starting with episode 576 569 00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,039 so here's a little known fact all of my 570 00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:24,799 skeptical activism stems from 571 00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:26,960 discovering the skeptic zone 572 00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,320 yep i first heard of the gsow project 573 00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:32,720 right here back in 2012 due to richard's 574 00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:34,080 selfless support of it 575 00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,760 and other skeptical activities around 576 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,480 the world i can honestly say 577 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,320 i'd likely still be a skeptical couch 578 00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:42,240 potato if i hadn't discovered 579 00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:45,600 this podcast so besides giving back to 580 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:46,240 the zone 581 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:48,720 by contributing occasional segments i 582 00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:50,320 contribute to the success of the show 583 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:52,880 with ongoing monthly micro payments 584 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,960 and i'm asking you to consider doing the 585 00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:56,000 same 586 00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:58,000 you can do that by following the patreon 587 00:22:02,549 --> 00:21:59,200 or paypal links 588 00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:02,559 at skepticzone.tv every donation 589 00:22:14,430 --> 00:22:03,679 supports the show 590 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:21,909 [Music] 591 00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,360 now i think it was about this time last 592 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:27,200 year or maybe 593 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,720 it's hard to say maybe may or june 594 00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:32,320 isn't it strange how the year gets away 595 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:34,000 from you especially with such a crazy 596 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:35,520 year as 2020 597 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:39,520 that i suggested a website be set up to 598 00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:40,080 collect 599 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,159 all the coronavirus conspiracy theories 600 00:22:46,149 --> 00:22:44,080 to catalogue them to have them archived 601 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:46,159 so people could reference them 602 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:49,600 and that came to fruition in the form of 603 00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:53,280 corona conspiracy.cloud and that link 604 00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,480 is on each week's show notes 605 00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:58,240 and i thought it was time i had a quick 606 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,159 look to see what 607 00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,240 over the last few months what new 608 00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:04,640 coronavirus conspiracies and nonsense 609 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,080 has been 610 00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:08,000 put on facebook or on the internet in 611 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:10,159 general road signs 612 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:12,880 whatever and i'm delighted to say in a 613 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,200 funny sort of way there are lots of 614 00:23:19,230 --> 00:23:17,120 entries here people have been uploading 615 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:19,240 things to corona 616 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,000 conspiracy.cloud well let's see 617 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,320 now here's a classic one covert 19 618 00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:26,400 there's a false flag operation 619 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,559 to usher in new world order 620 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:32,640 and another one here from last year 621 00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:34,080 somebody's standing 622 00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,400 next to a giant banner it says 623 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,799 curved 19 is a false flag operation to 624 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:42,559 usher in the new world order 625 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:45,200 there we are again they are forging 626 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:46,720 death certificates 627 00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:50,799 to inflate the figures do your research 628 00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:52,960 say no to martial law mandatory 629 00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,600 vaccinations one world currency 630 00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:58,320 cashless society so it's really good 631 00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:58,880 that people 632 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:00,320 actually taking photographs of these 633 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,320 things in the street 634 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:04,320 as it were in posting them to this 635 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,640 archive here we have another one let's 636 00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:08,400 see what it says i'll click the link 637 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,200 all you have to do when you go to corona 638 00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:11,919 conspiracy.cloud is you click 639 00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,440 the thumbnail or you can do a search 640 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:18,240 and up pops the item in question plus a 641 00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:18,960 little bit of 642 00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:22,159 background here's one from 643 00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,720 facebook it would appear coronavirus 644 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:25,919 cocktail 645 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,080 healey medical board golden circle pure 646 00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:33,200 fitness circulation meridian 2 647 00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:36,480 lymphatic system bioanagenic balance 1 648 00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:37,360 immune system 649 00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:40,640 bioenergetic balance 2 bacteria 650 00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:43,679 deep cycle clean all cold cycle 651 00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,200 care running these frequency programs 652 00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:49,360 daily to keep an immune system in 653 00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:50,480 tip-top 654 00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,760 shape healthy frequency healing 655 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:55,600 australia 656 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:58,240 wow and the person who's uploaded this 657 00:25:02,470 --> 00:24:59,440 says promotion of a 658 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:02,480 quack bio-residence device 659 00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:05,760 the heli to treat chronovirus making up 660 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:09,120 nonsense healing medical board fanciful 661 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:09,840 claims 662 00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,799 indeed 663 00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:17,279 another snippet here what's this one 664 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:18,559 with a 665 00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:21,600 weird graphic that says covered 666 00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:26,159 5g gates world health organization 667 00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:29,200 everything's in there new templars new 668 00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:30,000 templars 669 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:33,440 covered one dg 670 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,720 map fully explained interview with dylan 671 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:38,799 lewis monroe 672 00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:42,880 hmm here's one it says 673 00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:46,640 ovid ovid is latin for sheep 674 00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,400 covid starts with a c which also means 675 00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:53,679 c s-e-e in ancient languages 676 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:57,039 19 was known as the number of surrender 677 00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:57,840 in ancient 678 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,039 times c 679 00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:04,559 overd 19 equals see a sheep 680 00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:07,840 surrender well that makes about as much 681 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:10,159 sense as just about anything i've seen 682 00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:11,279 another one 683 00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,039 here from a md 684 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:18,240 holistic holistic psychiatrist 685 00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,320 oh yeah strand of human hair this is 686 00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:24,480 its images strand of human hair 15 687 00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:26,159 microns in diameter 688 00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,679 and then tiny little coronavirus 0.12 689 00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:31,039 microns diameter 690 00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:33,279 then a circle representing the surgical 691 00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:36,159 mask diameter filtration capacity 2 to 692 00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:37,200 10 microns 693 00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,320 basically trying to say that the 694 00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:40,240 chronovirus is much smaller than the 695 00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,559 holes in the surgical mask 696 00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,000 which is an old argument i've heard for 697 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:46,320 about a year now but of course the 698 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:49,360 virus itself just doesn't waft out 699 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:52,720 all on its lonesome another posting on 700 00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:56,400 would seem to be facebook from sally and 701 00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:57,039 scharf 702 00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:59,360 firstly viruses are not living organisms 703 00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:00,240 or living 704 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:03,279 microbes they do not have a respiratory 705 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:04,640 system nor 706 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:08,159 do they have a nucleus or digestive 707 00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,480 system viruses are not alive and viruses 708 00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:12,159 are not contagious 709 00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:15,200 oh boy the fear behind coronavirus for 710 00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:15,679 instance 711 00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:18,399 is wholly unwarranted forget everything 712 00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:20,240 you think you know about viruses and 713 00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:21,520 bacteria 714 00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:28,470 well here's another interesting one from 715 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:31,039 november last year what the government 716 00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:32,640 doesn't tell you 717 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:36,159 socializing boosts immunity 718 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,960 facial expressions are a key component 719 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:40,080 to communication 720 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:42,080 and human connection the heart's 721 00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:50,950 bacteria are our immune system viruses 722 00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:54,000 are part of a detoxing mechanism and are 723 00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:55,919 not the cause of disease 724 00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:58,399 how about that here's another posting 725 00:28:02,950 --> 00:27:59,520 somebody's put up 726 00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:02,960 a screen capture that says it 727 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:06,000 shouldn't be this shocking everyone 728 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,960 will get this lab made covered 19 729 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:10,240 eventually 730 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:13,760 99 infection rate means you're 731 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,200 likely to catch it 99 survival rate 732 00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,760 means you're likely to live through it 733 00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:21,440 greater than one percent death rate 734 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,159 means you have nothing to worry about 735 00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,600 so open everything up already 736 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:29,120 and that looks like that was from 737 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:30,880 october last year 738 00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,520 and and i think it's safe to say we've 739 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:35,760 seen what happens when societies open up 740 00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:36,559 too quickly 741 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:41,279 and it's never good and one more for now 742 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:44,480 posting the new 743 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:47,360 vaccine for curved 19 will be the first 744 00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:48,320 of its kind 745 00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:53,679 ever it will be an mrna vaccine 746 00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:56,799 which will literally alter your dna 747 00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:00,559 it will warp itself into your system 748 00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,000 warp itself into your system like star 749 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:08,310 you will essentially become a 750 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:10,720 genetically modified human being 751 00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:14,240 complete with an image here of some dna 752 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:16,159 imagine that a genetically modified 753 00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:17,600 human being 754 00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:20,320 well they're just some of the many many 755 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,799 many 756 00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:22,640 entries people from around the world 757 00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:24,840 have been putting up at corona 758 00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:26,320 conspiracy.cloud 759 00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:28,880 and if you're a journalist and you're 760 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,559 interested in writing a story about some 761 00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:32,480 of the quackery and misconceptions and 762 00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,840 nonsense out there 763 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,679 then this site is really worth a visit 764 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,520 because it's page after page after page 765 00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:39,520 of screen captures photographs and other 766 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:40,240 things 767 00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:42,640 people have been putting up all to do 768 00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,039 with coronavirus conspiracies 769 00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:47,440 and nonsense again you can visit that 770 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,559 site very easily 771 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,600 by going to corona conspiracy.cloud or 772 00:29:56,410 --> 00:29:53,200 simply clicking the link 773 00:30:05,669 --> 00:29:56,420 in each week's show notes 774 00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:09,190 drinking hey drinks hey so nice to be 775 00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,799 back at skeptics in the pub 776 00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:12,960 yes richard it's great that covert 19 is 777 00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:14,000 a thing of the past 778 00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:16,000 and we can gather together and not wear 779 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:17,679 masks although i will occasionally you 780 00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,240 know like 781 00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:20,159 you know in special situations you know 782 00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,600 what i mean 783 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:23,600 this this beer tastes better than i 784 00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:24,720 remember 785 00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:27,840 and this beer glass is much bigger than 786 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:28,640 i remember 787 00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:31,360 hmm oh thanks for this i'll get the next 788 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:31,919 round 789 00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:34,840 ah no need all the beer is free tonight 790 00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,080 free 791 00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:37,840 wow did you hear that all the 792 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:39,440 anti-vaxxers and flat earthers have 793 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:40,640 changed their minds 794 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:43,919 what really yeah yeah yeah they're now 795 00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:45,600 busy writing apology letters to the 796 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:46,399 whole world 797 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:47,760 they're really busy they're gonna have 798 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:49,120 to sharpen their pencil if you know what 799 00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:49,600 i mean 800 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:52,720 ah look it's lara coming over here with 801 00:31:03,430 --> 00:30:53,279 a 802 00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:03,440 lobster chips 803 00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:06,320 lobster and chips oh wow this is like a 804 00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,200 dream 805 00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:09,519 and this pub now has recliner chairs a 806 00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:11,360 free foot massage for everyone and 807 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,240 vouchers for uber rides home 808 00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:16,880 wow hang on this seems too good to be 809 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:18,159 true who's the guest speaker it's not 810 00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:19,840 bloody brian dunning is it 811 00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:23,039 let me see uh this 812 00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:26,320 is odd it says here it's the skeptical 813 00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:27,760 fairy godmother angel 814 00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:30,799 from the internet the skeptical god 815 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:34,240 mel you know you know 816 00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:46,070 hello everyone who are you like you're 817 00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:47,519 only 10 centimeters tall 818 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:50,080 that's about 4 inches for those of you 819 00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:50,960 using the 820 00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:53,600 darth vader imperial system and floating 821 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:55,360 in the air that can't be right 822 00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:58,399 as lara said i'm the skeptical 823 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:01,760 fairy godmother angel from the internet 824 00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,840 ask a silly question and you're 825 00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:05,519 tonight's guest speaker 826 00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:09,200 well not really i have come to tell you 827 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:09,679 that 828 00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:14,640 yes this is all a dream 829 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:17,039 i thought this was too good to be true i 830 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,840 know we can't meet in pubs at the moment 831 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:21,760 but that shouldn't stop you from 832 00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:24,960 enjoying skeptical talks online 833 00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,000 the fixed skeptics have skeptics cafe 834 00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:31,120 each month sydney has skeptics in the 835 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:32,240 pub 836 00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:34,720 there are online events from the gold 837 00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:35,279 coast 838 00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:38,320 and yes yes this all sounds 839 00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,840 eerily familiar have we met before 840 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:42,880 somewhere 841 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,960 maybe we have maybe it was as we watched 842 00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:48,000 a live and 843 00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:51,200 interactive skeptical talk all you need 844 00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:51,519 do 845 00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:54,559 is search for them online no matter 846 00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:56,000 where you are in the world 847 00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,679 she's right i've been watching skeptical 848 00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:59,600 talks from the uk the us 849 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:01,200 and even one from my own living room 850 00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,720 although that one wasn't very 851 00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:04,320 interesting i fell asleep and i was the 852 00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:04,799 speaker 853 00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:07,840 hang on hang on weren't you once 854 00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:11,279 the tooth fairy i'll 855 00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:14,640 never leave that down one last 856 00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:20,480 question yes just whose dream is this 857 00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:31,909 she disappeared but um we're still here 858 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:32,799 huh 859 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:36,960 right so um 860 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,279 lobster and chips anyone oh yeah he only 861 00:33:55,910 --> 00:33:40,880 pays for food and drinks in the dream 862 00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:01,590 [Music] 863 00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:02,960 guess it's time to look into the 864 00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:05,679 treasure trove at trove.nla 865 00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:08,560 dot today you the digitized resource of 866 00:34:12,570 --> 00:34:10,000 australian newspapers gives it 867 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:12,580 periodicals etc 868 00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:16,480 [Music] 869 00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:20,159 thousands of digitized articles complete 870 00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:22,240 magazines complete catalogs of 871 00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,200 newspapers 872 00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:25,359 going back decades and decades and 873 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:27,280 decades 874 00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,079 and this week i thought we'd do a search 875 00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:32,839 for the term 876 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:39,430 and i was amazed at how many returns 877 00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:40,720 that 878 00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:44,079 search resulted in so many but here are 879 00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,119 a few picked at random 880 00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:52,560 from the queenslander which was 881 00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:53,280 published 882 00:35:03,109 --> 00:34:57,440 apparently from 1866 to 1939 883 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:03,119 saturday the 30th of april 1921 884 00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:06,480 superstitions about furniture 885 00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,680 one day someone will issue an 886 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:11,040 encyclopedia about superstitions 887 00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:12,720 and it will be one of the most 888 00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:15,280 voluminous encyclopedias yet published 889 00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:19,440 such is the credulity of the human race 890 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:21,280 there are an extraordinary number of 891 00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:22,560 superstitions about 892 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:26,079 furniture says a writer in john o 893 00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:28,960 london's weekly anybody can smash a 894 00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,320 chair maybe 895 00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:32,880 an antique of great beauty and value but 896 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:34,960 nobody will have the shivers 897 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,480 whereas if a cheap ugly looking glass is 898 00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:39,359 broken 899 00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:42,480 some people will have fits in 900 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:45,119 cornwall the supposed penalty for such 901 00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:45,760 an offense 902 00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:48,800 used to be seven years of sorrow a 903 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:50,960 yorkshire proverb states that such an 904 00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:51,520 accident 905 00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:54,960 involves seven years trouble but no want 906 00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,200 it used to be regarded as a sure 907 00:36:02,470 --> 00:35:59,839 indication of the speedy decease of the 908 00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,480 master of the house and in scotland it 909 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,560 was regarded as an infallible sign that 910 00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:06,720 some member of the family would shortly 911 00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,359 die 912 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:09,680 it was supposed to be the height of ill 913 00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,720 luck to see 914 00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:12,800 the new moon reflected in a looking 915 00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:15,599 glass through a window pane 916 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,920 and some mothers carefully prevented 917 00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:19,760 their youngest child looking on 918 00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:23,119 one until a year old 919 00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,839 mirrors were regarded by our forefathers 920 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:27,200 as the most 921 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,040 effective means of divining secrets 922 00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,119 there is a tradition that the gunpowder 923 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:36,240 plot was discovered by dr john d 924 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:39,200 a famous magician of that time with his 925 00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:40,880 magic mirror 926 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:43,520 there is an old engraving in a prayer 927 00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:44,240 book 928 00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:47,599 printed by bassett in 1737 showing a 929 00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:50,400 circular looking glass with a reflection 930 00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:51,680 of the houses of 931 00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:54,320 parliament by night with a person 932 00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,680 entering carrying 933 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,760 a lantern there was a popular 934 00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:59,040 superstition once 935 00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:01,760 that fine glass such as that of venice 936 00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:02,640 would break if 937 00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:06,079 poison were put in it there is much 938 00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:09,200 curious folklore about the bed bedsteads 939 00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:10,720 were always placed parallel 940 00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:13,440 to the planks of the floor as it was 941 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:14,240 considered 942 00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,280 unlucky to sleep across the boards there 943 00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:19,520 is a belief among the hindus that 944 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:22,720 those who sleep with their beds to the 945 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:23,520 north 946 00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,160 will have their days shortened yet some 947 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:27,920 people say they always sleep 948 00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:30,640 sounder when their heads are placed to 949 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,680 the north 950 00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:34,160 and a scottish physician once declared 951 00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,720 that 952 00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:37,040 when he failed by every other 953 00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:39,119 prescription to bring sleep to 954 00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:41,280 invalid children he recommended their 955 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:42,560 beds be turned 956 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:45,760 due north or south the phrase 957 00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,880 to get out of bed the wrong way 958 00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:51,440 originated in an ancient superstition 959 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:53,119 which regarded it as 960 00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:56,320 unlucky to place the left foot first 961 00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:59,920 on the ground when getting out of bed 962 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,400 and the next item that comes to us is 963 00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:04,960 from the newcastle morning herald and 964 00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:08,480 miners advocate published on the 965 00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:11,599 3rd of march 1885 966 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:15,280 superstitions about the moon there are 967 00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:17,440 a numerous class of influences which 968 00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,599 popular opinion has imputed 969 00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:22,079 to our satellite and which however 970 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:23,920 absurd they may be 971 00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:26,800 have prevailed among mankind in almost 972 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:27,680 all countries 973 00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,160 and throughout all ages the influence of 974 00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:32,400 the moon upon the weather is 975 00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:35,760 almost as firmly believed in today 976 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,320 as it was a century ago and should you 977 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,839 attempt to deny it 978 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:42,000 you run the risk of being treated as an 979 00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:43,040 infidel 980 00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:46,079 or looked upon as not being exactly 981 00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,119 square in the upper story 982 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:51,599 besides its influence on the weather the 983 00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:52,160 moon 984 00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,880 is held responsible for a great variety 985 00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:56,160 of influences 986 00:39:03,190 --> 00:38:59,680 on the organized world for instance 987 00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:03,200 the circulation of the sap in vegetables 988 00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:06,640 the qualities of grain the goodness 989 00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:10,079 of your vintage are severally laid 990 00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:13,359 to its account and timber must be 991 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:14,079 planted 992 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,240 down and gathered in 993 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:21,119 the juice of the grape expressed and its 994 00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,400 subsequent treatment 995 00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,560 regulated at times under the 996 00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:26,800 circumstances having determined 997 00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,320 relation to the aspects of the moon if 998 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,640 excellence be looked for in these 999 00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:34,560 products of the soil 1000 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:37,599 pigs must be killed and their subsequent 1001 00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,160 treatment 1002 00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:40,720 related also according to the age of the 1003 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:41,359 moon 1004 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:44,000 according to popular belief satellite 1005 00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:46,560 also presides over human maladies 1006 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:49,920 and the phenomena of the sick chamber 1007 00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:53,200 are governed by lunar phases nay 1008 00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:56,640 the very marrow of our bones and the 1009 00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:58,160 weight of our bodies 1010 00:40:01,670 --> 00:40:00,560 suffer increase or dimination under its 1011 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:01,680 influence 1012 00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:05,359 physical 1013 00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:08,480 and organic effects it extends its way 1014 00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:09,839 into the region of intellectual 1015 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,880 phenomena 1016 00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:13,200 and notoriously governs mental 1017 00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,400 derangement 1018 00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:16,240 another prevalent notion in some parts 1019 00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,640 of europe is that the moon's light is 1020 00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:20,000 attended with the 1021 00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:23,119 effects of darkening the complexion also 1022 00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:26,560 that it facilitates the purification of 1023 00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,160 animal substances and that oysters and 1024 00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:32,640 other shellfish become larger during the 1025 00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:33,599 increase 1026 00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:36,960 than during the decline of the moon 1027 00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:39,200 births are supposed to be influenced by 1028 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:40,160 the moon 1029 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,280 as it is a prevalent opinion 1030 00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,760 that they occur more frequently in the 1031 00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:47,359 decline of the moon 1032 00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,480 than in her increase eggs 1033 00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,880 it is asserted should be put to hatch 1034 00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:54,480 when the moon is new 1035 00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,560 and fowls are better and more 1036 00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:57,680 successfully 1037 00:41:01,510 --> 00:41:00,960 reared when they break the shell at the 1038 00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:01,520 fall 1039 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,880 of the moon maidens also wishing to know 1040 00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:06,240 who their future 1041 00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,599 lord and master is to be must visit a 1042 00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:11,440 running stream at midnight 1043 00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:13,839 by the light of the full moon repeating 1044 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,200 the words 1045 00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:18,400 full moon full moon reveal to me 1046 00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:21,599 who my sweetheart is to be thereupon 1047 00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:25,040 the loving swan will appear 1048 00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:28,400 if not in substance at least in shadow 1049 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,160 the above are only a few of the 1050 00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:32,400 superstitious notions prevalent 1051 00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:34,880 among country people in all parts of 1052 00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,599 europe 1053 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,319 regarding the moon's influence for the 1054 00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:40,800 knowledge of which i am indebted to 1055 00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:45,040 lardner's museum of science wgb 1056 00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,920 quebec the next one comes to us from the 1057 00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:49,599 newcastle morning herald at minus 1058 00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:51,760 advocate and this time 1059 00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:55,599 it's from the 24th of december 1907. 1060 00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:58,079 new year's superstitions in the north of 1061 00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:58,640 england 1062 00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:01,520 it is considered unlucky for any inmate 1063 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:02,000 to go 1064 00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,880 out of the house on new year's day until 1065 00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,319 someone from 1066 00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,119 without has entered it and the first 1067 00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:10,960 foot across the threshold 1068 00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,240 is watched with great anxiety the good 1069 00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,079 or bad luck of the house during 1070 00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:19,359 the year depending on the first comer 1071 00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:22,319 being a man or a woman in lancashire 1072 00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:23,040 folklore 1073 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:26,160 it is related that should it be a female 1074 00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:27,680 or a lightheaded male 1075 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,599 be the first to enter a house on the 1076 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,200 morning of new year's 1077 00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:34,560 day it is supposed to bring bad luck for 1078 00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:35,359 the whole year 1079 00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:38,079 then commencing various precautions are 1080 00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:38,720 taken 1081 00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:42,240 to prevent this misfortune hence many 1082 00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:42,640 male 1083 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,680 persons with black or dark hair 1084 00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:47,520 are in the habit of going from house to 1085 00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,280 house on that day 1086 00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:52,079 to take the new year in for which they 1087 00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,280 are treated with 1088 00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:55,200 liquor and presented with a small 1089 00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,319 gratuity 1090 00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:59,119 so far it is the apprehension carried 1091 00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:59,839 that 1092 00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:02,319 some families will not open the door to 1093 00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:02,960 anyone 1094 00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,000 until satisfied by the voice that he 1095 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:08,400 is likely to bring the house a year's 1096 00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,040 good luck 1097 00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:11,839 by entering it the most kindly and 1098 00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:12,880 charitable woman 1099 00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:16,160 in a neighborhood will strongly refuse 1100 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:17,359 to give anyone 1101 00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:21,040 a light on the morning of new year's day 1102 00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:24,079 as it is most unlucky to the one who 1103 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,520 gives it away 1104 00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,599 as bearing on the last named 1105 00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:28,800 superstition 1106 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:31,760 it is asserted that in the north riding 1107 00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:32,720 of yorkshire 1108 00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,599 those who have not the common materials 1109 00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:36,720 for making a fire 1110 00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:39,520 generally sit without one on new year's 1111 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,240 day 1112 00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:42,480 for none of their neighbors although 1113 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,400 hospitable at other times 1114 00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,280 will suffer them to light a candle at 1115 00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:48,880 their fires 1116 00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:51,280 if they do it is believed that one of 1117 00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:53,119 the family will die within 1118 00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:56,160 the year opening a bible on new year's 1119 00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,800 day 1120 00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,440 is a superstitious practice observed in 1121 00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:00,880 some parts of england 1122 00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:04,319 says brand in his popular antiques and 1123 00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:06,960 much credit is attached to it it is 1124 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:08,079 unusually set 1125 00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:11,440 about with some little ceremony on the 1126 00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:12,880 morning before breakfast 1127 00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,839 as it must be performed fasting the 1128 00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,760 bible is laid on the table 1129 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,520 unopened and the parties who wish to 1130 00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,119 consult it are 1131 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,319 there to open it in succession 1132 00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,400 they are not at liberty to choose any 1133 00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,000 particular part of the book 1134 00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,480 they must open it at random wherever 1135 00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,079 this may happen to be 1136 00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:34,720 the inquirer is to place his finger on 1137 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:37,920 any chapter contained in the two pages 1138 00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:40,400 but without any previous perusal or 1139 00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:41,680 examination 1140 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:44,079 it is believed that the good or ill 1141 00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,520 fortune the happiness 1142 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:48,560 or the misery of the consulting party 1143 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,280 during the 1144 00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:52,640 ensuing year will be in some way 1145 00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:56,079 or other described or for shown 1146 00:45:02,470 --> 00:44:59,119 by the contents of the chapter as a rule 1147 00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:02,480 although customs the origin of which 1148 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:03,359 dates back 1149 00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:06,880 to the misty days of the dim and distant 1150 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,400 past have been transplanted in australia 1151 00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,480 with the people of distant lands 1152 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:14,000 superstitions having 1153 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,240 stayed at home this new country is not a 1154 00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:17,680 congenital home 1155 00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,839 for the elves fairies witches and 1156 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:21,280 warlocks of europe 1157 00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:24,160 there is nowhere for them to hide for 1158 00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:24,800 the sun 1159 00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,359 shines all the year round and the 1160 00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:29,200 compulsory education system 1161 00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:33,200 is not friendly to them i like that last 1162 00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,760 line 1163 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:35,440 that says a lot actually the more 1164 00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:37,119 educated 1165 00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:41,280 a society is the less uh superstitious 1166 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,550 and finally we come to an article from 1167 00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:48,400 the albury banner 1168 00:45:56,750 --> 00:45:51,520 and wadonga express 1169 00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:56,760 published on the 26th of may 1915 1170 00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:00,079 superstitions of the stage and 1171 00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,760 dressing rooms if a chorus girl whistles 1172 00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,839 in the dressing room while she is making 1173 00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:07,680 up for the stage 1174 00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:09,920 she is immediately thrust outside no 1175 00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,640 matter what the state of her attire 1176 00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,960 made to turn around three times knock at 1177 00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:16,720 the door and apologize 1178 00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:19,839 on being readmitted she may sing 1179 00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:23,280 shout dance or show her merriment in any 1180 00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,480 other form but whistling is supposed to 1181 00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,800 put a blight on the performance 1182 00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:31,440 and only the novices indulge in it the 1183 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:34,720 whistling girl who refuses to apologize 1184 00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:38,640 is unmercifully ragged this is one of 1185 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,200 many 1186 00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,440 curious superstitions which rule among 1187 00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:43,440 the ladies of the chorus 1188 00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:45,920 in the process of making up a hair's 1189 00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,599 foot is used 1190 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,000 the average chorus girl will give almost 1191 00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:51,920 any some she possesses 1192 00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:54,640 to secure for its purpose the foot of a 1193 00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,440 hair 1194 00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,839 that has been shot by moonlight of 1195 00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:00,240 course these are rarities and many 1196 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,000 spurious feet are sold but for a genuine 1197 00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:06,319 moonlighter there is always keen 1198 00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:07,359 competition 1199 00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,520 wobby tied the girl who brings may 1200 00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:11,760 blossoms into the dressing room 1201 00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:14,640 any other sort of flower or foliage is 1202 00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:15,760 tolerated 1203 00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:18,319 but not welcomed but may blossom to a 1204 00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:19,359 chorus girl 1205 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,640 is as a red flag to an infuriated bull 1206 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,640 every girl possesses a makeup box 1207 00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:26,400 something like a small cash box 1208 00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,440 containing many 1209 00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,680 compartments for the various articles 1210 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,599 used for the face to 1211 00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,599 counteract the white glare of the 1212 00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,280 footlights if 1213 00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:37,119 during the run of a certain piece of 1214 00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:38,559 review she 1215 00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:41,119 dared clean this out she is looked upon 1216 00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:42,480 as jonah 1217 00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:45,839 and shunned by her fellow choristers 90 1218 00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:46,800 out of 1219 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,599 every 100 chorus girls believe that the 1220 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,200 stopping of a clock 1221 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:53,520 or watch in the dressing room means bad 1222 00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,400 luck 1223 00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,160 either it means that the performance 1224 00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:58,880 will get what is known in the profession 1225 00:48:02,470 --> 00:47:59,359 as 1226 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,480 the bird that is be booed hissed 1227 00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:04,480 interrupted or received 1228 00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:07,680 in stony silence or that the run 1229 00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:10,240 of the piece will be short in the course 1230 00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:10,880 of a 1231 00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:14,880 10 or 12 weeks tour of the provinces 1232 00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:16,800 the chorus girl travels hundreds of 1233 00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,119 miles free and sees more of the country 1234 00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:21,599 than the average person with 20 times 1235 00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:23,040 her income 1236 00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:26,160 all her travelling from town to town is 1237 00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:26,800 done on 1238 00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:30,079 sunday she may have finished at the 1239 00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,440 theater at midnight 1240 00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:33,440 spend two hours at her lodgings in 1241 00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:36,480 packing ready for the baggage man's call 1242 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,920 and get ready to start on the 10 hours 1243 00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:41,760 journey by 5 am 1244 00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,720 this has left little time for making 1245 00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:46,480 herself look smart 1246 00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:50,000 but if any chorus girl dead in a moment 1247 00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:50,319 of 1248 00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:53,520 forgetfulness to trim her fingernails on 1249 00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:54,880 the train 1250 00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:57,839 she is shunned for the rest of the 1251 00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:58,400 journey 1252 00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:00,880 because silly as it may seem to those 1253 00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,240 outside the business 1254 00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,800 it is believed among the course that 1255 00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:06,640 this act will damage the show 1256 00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:09,760 for a week if while dressing the chorus 1257 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:10,160 girl 1258 00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:13,520 accidentally puts her foot in any beer 1259 00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:16,480 or other intoxicant which has been 1260 00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:17,920 spilled on the floor 1261 00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:21,119 she considers her luck is in 1262 00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,720 even though she herself may be a strict 1263 00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,280 tea totaller a theatrical landlady with 1264 00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,040 red hair and a cross eye 1265 00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:31,119 may as well shut up shop as far as 1266 00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:32,640 letting to chorus girls 1267 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:36,000 is concerned they will have none of her 1268 00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:37,520 and i've yet to find the girl of the 1269 00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,119 chorus who will sleep in a room where 1270 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,880 there are flowers 1271 00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:43,440 unless they are artificial she may well 1272 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,520 incur the anger of the stage manager if 1273 00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:47,680 her stocking is put on the wrong 1274 00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:50,800 side purely by mistake but the 1275 00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,079 average chorus girl would mutiny rather 1276 00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:56,000 than change it because she firmly 1277 00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:57,760 believes that in doing so 1278 00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:00,800 she would change her luck which is more 1279 00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:01,760 to her 1280 00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,280 than an official wigging 1281 00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,880 and it's interesting to note that the 1282 00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,119 last paragraph i read 1283 00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:12,720 as originally published i would imagine 1284 00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,800 is mixed up it's really strange the 1285 00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:18,960 first line she may incur the anger of 1286 00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:20,640 the stage is correct 1287 00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:25,440 the next line is written upside down 1288 00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,960 not back to front purely upside down 1289 00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:31,040 and that line is should be about four 1290 00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:32,880 lines further on 1291 00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,480 and the following line is also 1292 00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:39,200 wrong so it's one line is upside down 1293 00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,880 and the rest are in the wrong order so 1294 00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:42,960 it took a little while for me to 1295 00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,839 to decipher that how strange is that 1296 00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,440 well there you are just a selection of 1297 00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,079 the many results that come back when we 1298 00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,240 look for superstitions in the pages of 1299 00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:56,000 australian journals and magazines and 1300 00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:57,250 newspapers 1301 00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,960 [Music] 1302 00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:00,559 and you can read that for yourself by 1303 00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,000 going to trove.nla.gov.eu searching for 1304 00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:06,559 superstitions or anything you like 1305 00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:09,520 and having a very interesting time in 1306 00:51:34,490 --> 00:51:10,319 reading 1307 00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:36,150 [Applause] 1308 00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:37,839 thank you for listening to the skeptic 1309 00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,160 zone now 1310 00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:43,359 it's sunday here in australia sunday the 1311 00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:44,079 4th and 1312 00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:48,319 this evening live yes live on facebook 1313 00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:51,520 at 8 30 sydney time and the clocks just 1314 00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,319 went back 1315 00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,319 last night so keep that in mind if 1316 00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:56,640 you're listening internationally anyway 1317 00:52:03,670 --> 00:51:59,760 8 30 tonight sydney time 1318 00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:03,680 maynard is doing a live quiz online 1319 00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:06,800 on facebook and you can find out more by 1320 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,200 visiting 1321 00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:11,200 maynard.com.eu it's maynard's we don't 1322 00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:12,400 care quiz 1323 00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:14,880 and i will be in the background on the 1324 00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:15,520 quiz 1325 00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:19,359 uh reading out your answers to maynard's 1326 00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:20,160 questions 1327 00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:22,400 lots of fun very silly of course it's 1328 00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:23,440 maynard 1329 00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:25,599 what do you expect check it out if you 1330 00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,720 can join us live 1331 00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:29,520 tonight sydney time that would be great 1332 00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:31,119 a couple of weeks ago on the show you 1333 00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,720 would have heard adrian hill talking 1334 00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:34,319 about the great australian prediction 1335 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:35,359 project 1336 00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:37,440 something that's been going on for quite 1337 00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:38,880 a few years now 1338 00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:41,119 i'll be giving a talk about that project 1339 00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:43,040 for the canberra skeptics 1340 00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:44,960 canberra skeptics proudly present the 1341 00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,400 great australian psychic prediction 1342 00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:48,160 project now this will be 1343 00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:52,240 tuesday the 13th of april at 6 00 p.m 1344 00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:55,920 here in uh in australia 1345 00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,920 canberra time sydney time melbourne time 1346 00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:59,359 brisbane time it's all the same at the 1347 00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,240 moment 1348 00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:02,400 and for more information on how to book 1349 00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:05,119 your place for that talk by me 1350 00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,400 just visit canberra skeptics.org a link 1351 00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,480 in this week's show notes 1352 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,559 and coming up in may for the canberra 1353 00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,480 skeptics another talk 1354 00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:16,960 what is humanism and that will be on the 1355 00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:18,640 12th of may 1356 00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:21,599 a talk by anne-marie cosgrove it's a 1357 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,079 zoom 1358 00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:25,200 talk for tens even hundreds of thousands 1359 00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:26,559 of years humans have been 1360 00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,240 wondering about their place in the 1361 00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,000 universe 1362 00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,240 and pondering fundamental questions 1363 00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,559 about their existence such as 1364 00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,040 how can i understand the world how can i 1365 00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:39,359 find meaning and fulfillment in life 1366 00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:41,440 how can i find comfort when i am 1367 00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:42,480 grieving 1368 00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:45,040 how do i deal with fear of my own death 1369 00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,559 oh it's a bit serious 1370 00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,720 how should i behave what is right and 1371 00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:49,920 what is wrong 1372 00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:52,559 for information on those two talks again 1373 00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:55,440 just visit canberrasskeptics.org 1374 00:53:58,750 --> 00:53:57,040 thank you to the people who continue to 1375 00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,760 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00:54:33,920 to download off wiki and 1392 00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:36,400 then check out the store and you might 1393 00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:37,599 want to 1394 00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,720 buy one or two and that of course helps 1395 00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:43,119 keep the show going but now it's time 1396 00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,240 for me to be going 1397 00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:45,920 so until next week this is richard 1398 00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:53,030 australia 1399 00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,799 you've been listening to the skeptic 1400 00:54:59,470 --> 00:54:56,240 zone podcast 1401 00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:59,480 please visit our website at 1402 00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:00,799 www.skepticzone.tv 1403 00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:03,920 for show notes contacts and to access 1404 00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,480 the back catalog of episodes going back 1405 00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,640 to 2008. 1406 00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:10,640 you can follow the skepticzone podcast 1407 00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:11,920 on twitter at 1408 00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:14,960 skepticzone visit our facebook page 1409 00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:18,480 or leave a review on itunes you can also 1410 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:21,119 support the skeptic zone via patreon 1411 00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:24,160 or paypal the skeptic zone podcast is 1412 00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:26,880 an independent production the views and 1413 00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,960 opinions expressed on the skeptic zone 1414 00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,960 are not necessarily those of australian 1415 00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:32,880 skeptics or any other 1416 00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:56,470 hello to the people who listen after the 1417 00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:58,880 music the after thoughts 1418 00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:00,799 keep thinking this is the part of the 1419 00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:03,280 show where i roll a die 1420 00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:04,960 usually three times actually usually 1421 00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:06,400 four times and you 1422 00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,000 guess what number's going to come up 1423 00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:10,559 this week it's a d10 1424 00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:15,440 very green d10 now i mentioned earlier 1425 00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:17,839 before the music that my online store 1426 00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,079 has photography one of the photographs 1427 00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:22,160 no a couple of the photographs are of 1428 00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:23,359 some of the dice i 1429 00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,880 use so you can check that out anyway 1430 00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:28,480 guess the way i'm going to roll it three 1431 00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:30,000 times originally and then we'll do a 1432 00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:31,119 fourth just for 1433 00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:33,440 fun i'm gonna write these down here 1434 00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:35,520 comes the first number 1435 00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:38,960 out of ten here we go 1436 00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:48,710 ten here's the first number 1437 00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:50,319 did you get ten here comes the second 1438 00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:56,829 six 1439 00:56:56,839 --> 00:57:01,990 and third roll 1440 00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:05,589 one very evenly spread today 1441 00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:07,520 and the supplementary the extra number 1442 00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,000 at the end just for fun 1443 00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:14,880 another one here we go folks the numbers